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Poster: Iko Jim Date: Dec 4, 2006 7:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3 most under-rated GD shows of all time

Come on.... I realize that we all have our own taste etc...

I do love the Duke show, and maybe it is very underrated, but when you start your argument by saying that the US Blues(was there a more overplayed encore?), is the best encore ever, I can't take the rest of your post seriously. With all the Terrapin/Shakedown/Good Love/Sugar Mag/UJB/Cold Rain/Werewolves not to mention the more conventional Baby Blue/Brokedown/Satisfaction/JGB etc. encores out there, you pick (any) US Blues??? And don't forget the Dark Star encore at the Greek in '84, even if it was less than perfect, it blows away any US Blues. Also I can't count how many times I heard the whistles during Truckin, it does not signify anything special.

This post was modified by Iko Jim on 2006-12-04 15:44:29

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Dec 4, 2006 7:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3 most under-rated GD shows of all time

I would second 4-12-78 being one of the THE great underrated shows ever. I don't have the Dead Database so I don't know whether that or my other choices would be in their top rated or not, but based on the fact that I only found my way to 4-12-78 very recently and have never heard tremendous mention of the following shows before, I would add to the list of undernoted AND excellent shows:

5-1-81 Hampton, VA., which I think gets overlooked mostly based on what appears to be a very ordinary set list. But the show itself, the versions of the songs played, including a mind blowing LIG>DEAL to end set one, and a confident run of 2nd set gems like THE WHEEL make it a keeper. In fact, I'll put the first set of 5-1-81 up against any of that Brent era.

9-25-81, Lehigh, PA. Another first set monster and while not as pristinely played as 5-1-81 (lyrical flubs in Fire, for exapmle) this show is more ambitious in the places it tries to go. The Scarlet>Fire alone fascinates me in this show b/c it takes chances most others don't. Jerry takes many routes to get to the fire, some are left dangling, other re-connect with the whole, but the splashdown into Fire is just stellar, and drives the Fire ahead into a version that doesn't lose momentum, in fact gains it, unlike some others that feel worn down from the weight of the Scarlet before it. But the 2nd set just rages on from there and really is a winner. Tough to find a clean sounding version, though. The AUD is OK, SBD leaves something to be desired.

I've often thought if you took set one from 5-1-81 and combined it w/set two of 9-25-81 you'd have the perfect Brent era Dead show.

I'll also throw in a mention for 10-30-77, (which is the following night from my all time favorite show, which I can't call underrated b/c I refuse to call it anything but magnificent).

So hard for many '77 shows to stand out because of May alone, not to mention that Fall run and the killer Winterland finish. But this one is a quiet gem. Beautiful Peggy-O, stunningly fantastic LazyLightning>Supplication, and a solid Playing sandwich in the 2nd set w/'77-standardly great Other One, Wheel, Wharf Rat in the middle.

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Poster: BlueMtnMan Date: Dec 4, 2006 11:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3 most under-rated GD shows of all time

FYI I was one of the lucky ones who attended this show. US Blues a standard encore that was not a favorite. But on this night it took the audiance to frenzy never experienced before or again. OK, personal memories don't account for much in the way of a review? So I attach the text notes of the seeder.

THE ENCORE: U. S. Blues...

Okay, it's an "old song" by now (played SEVENTY THREE times prior to this show, and used many times as an Encore)...

And okay, probably more than "a few dozen" people decided to bolt for the exits when the first chords of this song began to be played. It initially sounded like a "typical show closer", just being played for the sake of having something to play, and the Boyz just wanting to get it over with.

All that I can say to the people who left early is: "TOO FRIGGIN' BAD"! When I think that they missed out on what has to be the BEST version of this song EVER PERFORMED LIVE!

EVERY single member of The Dead are still totally immersed in this inexplicable "Cameron Energy Vortex"! They have proved that they are "A Band Beyond Description" for the past TWO HOURS AND FORTY-THREE MINUTES! They have given the audience a performance that is aurally reflected in this recording; taking colors, which represent the many huge and many subtle aspects of performing in this show, and painted a picture which no one can describe but everyone "understands".

The encore in this show had to have the building shaking to a point where people outside the venue may have thought that there was a 8.0 magnitude earthquake going on inside the building!

Jerry is literally going crazy on stage, like an whirling dervish who downed 2 gallons of Starbuck's finest brew! Never have I heard him sing ANY encore with such enthusiasm and volume levels that made him appear to be a "screaming wild man" bouncing off the padded walls of an asylum! And there's nothing that can stop release of energy that was being bottled up prior to this song... it prevails, it pulses, and it's permiating EVERY atom one each of the band members.

I know Jerry was up there on stage, grinning from ear to ear, for the entire song; Phil was off into his own universe of the cosmos; Bobby had to be doing his Rock Star act "Vaudville-style"; Keith isn't tickling the ivories, but banging on them like some guy trying to get a bartender's attention in a crowded pub; Donna's dancing her butt off, whirling and spinning near her microphone; and Mickey and Billy are just playing like 2 peas in a pod... so identical in their riffs and styles and sounds, and yet still being unique in their own ways.

Jerry's vocal and guitar playing levels, starting in the first third of the song all the way to the very last string plucked, that you KNOW the sound people are constantly adjusting his compression and limiting, not to mention the mixer channel levels, just to keep any distortion at bay! You can hear them making adjustments once they realize what is going on. So even though you KNOW that Jerry is screaming into his mike, the recorded sound is not as loud as you would imagine; but you certainly can tell how much he's pushing the envelope! I'm wondering how many throat lozenges he had to toss back once they began to unwind after the show...

Obviously you entitled to your opinion but to blast someone on theirs is crass.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 4, 2006 9:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3 most under-rated GD shows of all time

Goes to show, you never can tell...never would have guessed; I saw some good performances of this song in the mid 70s where they really cooked, but this descriptions suggests something really special.